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Springfield Armory Museum - Collection RecordSpringfield Armory Museum - Collection Record Send us your own about this object.Title:GUN, SUBMACHINE -  U.S. SUBMACHINE GUN THOMPSON MODEL 1928.45ACP SN# S108411Maker/Manufacturer:THOMPSON, JOHN T.Date of Manufacture:C 1935Eminent Figure:Catalog Number:SPAR 19Measurements:OL: 86.3CM 34' BL: 26.6CM 10 1/2' 11 lbs.Object Description:U.S. SUBMACHINE GUN THOMPSON MODEL 1928.45ACP SN# S108411Manufactured by Savage Arms, Utica, N.Y.

Standard Model 1928 Thompson submachine gun. Delayed blow-back design. Selective fire; top actuator. 6-groove rifling; right hand twist. Fixed blade front sight. Muzzle velocity 920 fps.

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Cyclic rate of fire reduced to 675 rpm. Effective range of 200 yards; maximum range 1600 yards. Weapon weighs 11 lbs.

Safety lever on left side of weapon. Equipped with 20-round detachable box magazine and Cutts compensator. Barrel bulged.

See STOLEN WEAPON ALERT at bottom of catalog page.Markings:Receiver: MODEL OF 1928/NO. S-108411/THOMPSON SUBMACHINE GUN/CALIBER.45 AUTOMATIC CARTRIDGE. Right side: U.S. PATENTS/1,181,810 1,852,414/1,888,866 1,857,208/1,840,881 1,863,809/1,840,943 1,403,623/1,847,754 1,406,546/1,849,845 1,408,276/1,817,821. AUTO-ORDNANCE CORPORATION/BRIDGEPORT, CONNECTICUT, U.S.A.

Top of receiver: Trademark.Cutts Compensator: Trade Mark. JULY 19, 1927/NO. Underside: S-108411.Rear sight: MDE BY 'LYMAN' MIDDLEFIELD, CONN.

U.S.A.Magazine: AUTO ORDNANCE, BRIDGEPORT, CONNECTICUT/REG. OFF.Weapon transferred to the Springfield Armory NHS from Savage Arms, Westfield, Ma. On 17 October 1978.Weapon appraised by Gillie & Company, Cos Cob, Connecticut, on May 5, 1978 as follows: 'Submachine-Gun, Mod.

1928-A1, Cal. Serial number S-108411, manufactured by Savage. Standard, parkerized 1928-A1 with double vertical grips and Lyman adjustable rear sight, rather than stamped sight. Condition very good.' Notes: 'Savage finally agreed to produce the Model 1928 Thompson, and signed the first contract for 10,000 guns on December 15, 1939, with Savage to use much of the same tooling that had been used to produce the 15,000 Model of 1921 guns at Colt's. However, Savage required that 50% of the contract was to be paid in advance of production, with the price of each gun produced being paid upon delivery.

With this system the 10,000 guns would be completely paid for when only half of them had been delivered.Savage's price was $67.00 for each complete model 'A' 1928 Thompson without compensator or rear sight, but with a finish 'as good' as Colt's previous production guns. Auto-Ordnance was to provide the rear sights, as it had for Colt's. These were purchased directly from the Lyman Gun Sight Co. Savage charged Auto-Ordnance.25 cents extra for threading in front of the barrel for the compensator, and.67 cents for installing the vertical fore gip.Based on assurances from Auto-Ordnance that all the necessary tooling was immediately available, Savage felt than ten weeks after signing a contract the first guns could be delivered.

However, when the equipment and materials status was reviewed on January 5, 1940, not all tooling was useable or available: Colt's and Remington were still using some of it to complete spare parts orders for Auto-Ordnance.It transpired that Colt's never had produced all of the parts for the Thompson. The butt stock, butt stock slide, butt plate and the rifled barrel blanks were furnished by the Remington Arms Co. Of Ilion, N.Y. The barrel fins and threading for the compensators were cut later by Colt's and Savage in their factories.

The Cutts compensators & rear sights were produced by the Lyman Gun Sight Co. The forgings for most of the remaining parts were supplied by Billings and Spencer of Hartford, Conn.Maguire engineered a further contract with Savage, to built another set of tooling for production of barrels, stocks and wood grips, so that when Savage set up the production of the Thompson at its Utica factory, they would be able to produce all their own parts internally.After August, 1941, when Auto-Ordnance had established its own production facility in Bridgeport, Conn., Savage also supplied many of the gun's components for assembly at the Auto-Ordnance plant. All parts produced by Savage have the letter 'S' stamped on them.The Savage-manufactured Model of 1928 Thompson was exactly the sam'The granddaddy of American submachine guns is the venerable Thompson. Available for sale to private citizens throughout the 1920s, 'Tommy guns' were boosted by an advertisement featuring a cowboy, furry chaps and all, intent on blasting mounted rustlers from the saddle. Cities that required a special license for the ownership of handguns found the Thompson selling briskly in compliance with prevailing law, and Prohibition syndicates were quick to take advantage of the weapon.Typically, Chicago led the way, with introduction of the Tommy gun to bootleg warfare in the fall of 1925. It would not reach Detroit until the spring of 1927, when the Purple Gang employed at least one Thompson in the Collingwood Apartment massacre, and mafioso Frankie Yale was first to feel the weapon's bite in New York City, during 1928. We have no tally for the Thompson's gangland body count, but all its other outings paled beside the 1929 St.

Valentine's Day Massacre, with seven members of the Bugs Moran gan falling in a blaze of automatic fire.The Great Depression thrust another breed of desperado into breathless headlines, with John Dillinger, Ma Barker, and a host of others packing Thompsons as they looted banks along the Midwest corridor. Following the 'Kansas City Massacre' of June 1933 (five dead, two wounded), Congress moved to limit private ownership of machine guns and other 'gangster weapons' (silencers, sawed off rifles and shotguns) with the National Firearms Act of 1934.

By that time, of course, the hoodlums were already well armed, and any shortages were made up by looting police stations or National Guard armories.The 1930s outlaws took to Tommy guns like children with a brand-new toy. Dillinger posed with one of his in photographs while 'Pretty Boy' Floyd preferred more practical displays, stripping his weapon of buttstock and foregrip to create a kind of superpistol. George 'Machine Gun' Kelly liked to practice on walnuts, while 'Baby Face' Nelson preferred human targets, mowing down two more FBI agents in November 1934.

(One of the G-men had a Thompson, too, and Nelson was hit seventeen times before he collapsed. His final words - 'I think I'm hit' - remain an all-time classic understatement.)Still, for all their fabled firepower, Tommy guns had certain shortcomings. Texas lawmen Ted Hinton, shooting it out with Clyde Barrow and Bonnie Parker in 1933, watched his.45 round bouncing off the outlaw vehicle. Disguised, Hinton shifted his allegiance to the mighty Browning Automatic Rifle, backing it up with a shotgun and two.45 Colts when he helped ambush Bonnie and Clyde a year later.

(Barrow and John Paul Chase - s sidekick of Baby Face Nelson - also favored the BAR for running shootouts but other outlaws rejected the piece as too heavy and awkward.Technically obsolete, the Thompson is still used by various police departments, and new models have lately gone into production from a firm called Auto Ordnance. Michael Newton'In theory, the Thompson was not a straight blow-back. It had a locking mechanism which worked on the 'Blish Principle' that metal faces tend to lock up and resist movement when their surfaces are flat and lubricated.

In fact, the submachine gun worked pretty much as a standard blow-back weapon; failure of the locking mechanism made little difference in its operation.' - Duncan Long.' THOMPSON M1928.45 - Perhaps the most famous SMG of them all - immortalized in rebel ballads and countless gangster films - the Thompson's beginnings were anything but auspicious.

Conceived as a 'trench-broom' to sweep the deadlocked Western Front, the Auto-OrdnIn 1939 the Thompson was the only SMG in mass-production outside Europe and on the outbreak of war Britain and France placed massive orders. The BEF took Thompsons to France with both drum and box magazines but the box magazine had the most military utility, night patrols reporting that the noise for a half-full drum magazine gave their position away.The US Army also placed large orders and by the end of 1940 the Auto-Ordnance Corporation and its licensees had orders for over 318,000 weapons, but the Thompson's complexity and high quality of manufacture brought a price, almost L50 (pounds) per unit.

Nevertheless the Thompson's reliability and efficiency in close and street-fighting made it a prized weapon an a favourite of British Commandos and US Rangers throughout the war. Similarly the fearsome reputation and aesthetic appeal of the Thompson M1928 has made it a prized weapon for guerillas and irregular forces from Ulster to Vietnam.' - Ian Hogg'While waiting for the M3 to enter production, the Thompson had been purchased in some numbers - they were being made by Auto-Ordnance and also by the Savage Arms company. The engineers at Savage looked long and hard at the Thompson design, particularly at the Blish H-piece and its complexities, and came to the conclusion that the gun would probably work just as well without all that careful machining.

So they built a Thompson with a solid breech-block and demonstrated that it worked perfectly well as a simple blowback gun. Note that they did not, as is often said, 'take out the H-piece and fire it', because without the H-piece you can't even cock a Thompson, let alone fire it. Auto-Ordnance didn't want to know - the Thompson was their baby and nobody was going to fool around with it, but when Savage told the Army about their modifications, the latter realized that the simpler version would be cheaper and quicker to make, easier to maintain and generally offer an improvement. So the modified design became the Thompson M1, and further modifications also simplified the magazine housing and made the gun workable only with a 20-round box magazine - the drum magazine was no longer considered practical. The difference in appearance is simple. The M1928 series original guns have the cocking handle on top of the receiver, while the M1 (and the slightly modified M1A1) have it on the right side.' - Ian Hogg'First military use of the Thompson submachine gun was by units of the U.S.

Marine Corps in Nicaragua. After field testing a few Model 1921 guns during jungle fighting in 1927 - 28, the Navy Department purchased several hundred Model 1928 'Navy Model.' Thompson's for Marine Corps forces protecting American interests against Nicaraguan insurgents.

Both Model 1921 and 1928 guns remained in service until the Marines were withdrawn in 1933.' - Johnson & Lockhoven'A year later (1932), Du Pont's European sales agent, Colonel William Taylor, again reported to Wilmington of German rearmament, including the smuggling of American arms to Nazis by way of the Dutch rivers that flow into Germany. 'There is a certain amount of contraband among the river shippers,' he wrote, 'mainly from America. Arms of all kinds.The principal arms coming from America are Thompson submachine guns and revolvers. Significantly, the only American firm licensed to manufacture and sell the Thompson submachine gun was Federal Laboratories, with which Du Pont shared joint sales agencies. In January 1933 Taylor sent another excited report of Dutch gunrunning to Nazis in the Cologne area. Within a month, Du Pont made its decision to take a direct plunge into the GermaReferences:Colby, Gerard.

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Army reports that a Thompson Sub-Machinegun, M1928A1, SN#250,000, was reported missing from the (Springfield Armory) Museum.According to official records, 'This gun was the two hundred and fifty thousandth Thompson Sub-Machine Gun produced by the Auto Ordnance Corp. And was presented to the Ordnance Dept. By that company. The Chief of Ordnance requested that it be placed on exhibit in the museum with a suitable card indicating that it was presented by the Auto Ordnance Corp.' The Criminal Investigation Division of the U.S. Army issued the following report dated 8 June 1965: 'The investigation was initiated on 4 June 1965, upon receipt of information from the Office of the Provost Marshall, New England Area, Boston Office, Army Base, Boston, Massachusetts, that they had been notified by Mr. Hart, Security Officer, Springfield Armory, Springfield, Massachusetts, that a sub-machine gun, property of the US Government, was missing at the Springfield Armory, Springfield, Massachusetts.Preliminary investigation revealed that on 19 February 1965, Mr.

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Thomas WALLACE, Curator, Springfield Armory Museum, Springfield, Massachusetts, discovered that a Thompson Sub-Machine Gun, Caliber.45, M1928A1, Serial Number 250,000 was missing from an uncovered display board, located in the museum. WALLACE conducted a fruitless search for the weapon, and then notified HART. HART ordered a complete search of all sections of the Springfield Armory and a complete inventory of the Museum which produced negative results. On 1 March 1965, the Federal Bureau of Investigation and the Police Department, Springfield, Massachusetts were notified of the missing weapon. The weapon has not been recovered to date. Investigation continues.' A follow-up report, dated 9 July 1965, concluded: 'From the foregoing investigation, it is concluded that: Person(s) unknown, did, at Springfield, Massachusetts, on an undetermined date, steal, a Thompson Sub Machine Gun, Caliber.45, M1928A1, Serial Number 250,000, of a value of about $127.00, the property of the United States.'

Both the U.S. Army and the National Park Service are interested in the recovery of this arm. Anyone with information on this arm should contact:SPRINGFIELD ARMORY NATIONAL HISTORIC SITEONE ARMORY SQUAREATTN: LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICESPRINGFIELD, MA.

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